House approves divorce bill in second reading but Prime Minister votes against

UPDATE 16 | Parliament has approved the second reading of the divorce bill with 44 votes in favour, 13 against and 12 abstensions. Prime Minister Lawrence Gonzi has voted against.

The vote was taken at 13:00 at the end of a long sitting this morning that closed eight sittings spread over a week and a half.

Nationalist MP and divorce bill promoter Jeffrey Pullicino Orlando wound up the second reading on the divorce bill, and hit out at the onslaught by those who are against divorce, and added that it is difficult to accept how MPs put religious beliefs before their obligations towards the state. He stressed that who is voting against the divorce bill which was clearly approved by a referendum, must be ready to suffer political consequences.

"If we do not honour the result, we would be showing that us politicians in this House are ready to ignore the clear message of solidarity towards a growing minority. We will be putting ourselves in a situation where people show more sensitivity than their representatives, a clear anomaly," he said.

Pullicino Orlando explained that it is "surreal" and "unacceptable" that the National Sexual Health Policy on the shelf because “somebody wants to discuss the issue with the Curia. This is unacceptable in a lay state."

Legislators must fulfill their obligations towards the state and not consider the church first, and it is a problem to have MPs to object to condom machines at the university campus. "Why are we fearing of stepping on somebody's toes in the curia.”

Pullicino Orlando appealed to MPs to respect the people's will, and stressed that "out there, people are not interpreting the facts as MPs are."

Conscience? "it is admirable that conscience is dictated by belief, but it is not acceptable to use it as an excuse to impose that belief on others," he said.

Pullicino Orlando said that the time has come for the State to review the Malta-Vatican concordat on marriages, and stressed that such a legislation granting supremacy to the Church Tribunal over annulments has become embarrassing for the nation within the European Union."

He stressed that contrary to the Prime Minister's fears over guarantees for adequate maintenance, this guarantee is already enacted in law, and who doesn't pay maintenance is imprisoned. "Law already provides for maintenace and nobody is asking to change it," Pullicino Orlando said.

Speaking in parliament this morning, Lawrence Gonzi hit out at the media, opinionists and politicians who expect MPs to unanimously vote in favour of divorce, given that a large majority of the electorate had voted in favour of the introduction of divorce in a referendum last May.

Gonzi said that he had a clear difficulty in finding a balance in respecting the people’s will and going against what he believes in.

He criticised the Leader of the Opposition who said that the PM must vote in favour of the bill. “Everybody knows what my opinion about divorce is, and so what credibility would I have if I had to vote in favour?” he asked.

The Prime Minister said that he believed that he would be betraying all those who believed in him, and stressed that over the past days he was burdened with the decision, and spoke at length about the oath of office he took when appointed Prime Minister.

“My oath of office says clearly that I must act according to conscience and without fear or favour,” Gonzi said, adding that he will not be hypocritical or a coward in facing the facts.

He said that his obligation is to see that the bill passes, however he expressed his disagreement with whoever expected MPs to divest themselves from conscience and go with the flow.

“Let us not be ridiculous and lead MPs to ignore conscience,” the Prime Minister said.

Gonzi hit out at Opposition leader Joseph Muscat for having "bulldozed" the referendum question in a debate last March, whereby he [Muscat] imposed a referendum question that will now have consequences on the events yet to come.

The Prime Minister said that the problem is now focused on giving the people a divorce bill which does not reflect the referendum question, most especially where a "guarantee" for adequate maintence is obligatory on divorcing couples.

"Experts have warned us that this is impossible, and we now have a fundamental problem of having a published bill that does not respect the people's wish," he said, adding that what is to come is that divorcing couples will be seeking court redress to gain the guarantee. "We are in a straight-jacket."

"Which MP is ready to finance that guaranteed maintenance?" he asked.

Meanwhile Labour MP Anglu Farrugia accused Lawrence Gonzi of being the first ever Prime Minister to go against the people's will, and stressed that the people no longer believe him.

Farrugia said that if the Prime Minister was truely concerned on the guarantees for adequate maintenance, then he should vote in favour and ensure that the bill gives that guarantee.

He also accused the Prime Minister of being irresponsible by exerting pressure on MPs who would be voting in favour. "This was clearly his last attempt to put pressure on MPs," Farrugia said.

The Labour MP said that the Prime Minister has insulted and humiliated a nation, and accused him of arrogance.

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Looks like those that voted pro DIVORCE are worried that they are going to be buried at mghatab and i don't blame them couse this PM is like his uncle
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Omega.....skond int mela ghandkom 12 il-pinnur li ivvutaw IVA u hdax il-pinnur li astenew dawk zgur li daru dawra tond mid-direttiva tal-partit taghkom....... lanqas tafu x'tghidu basta minghalikom taqbzu ghal Dr.No...il-partit tal-LE.!
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OH NO ONE DISPUTES THAT BRIFFY, WHEN THE EU GOES DOWN THE DRAIN AS IT WILL QUITE SOON, IT WILL MAKE THE DIVORCE ISSUE LOOK LIKE THE GAY DIVORCEE!! ANTICIPATING YOUR IGNORANCE: THE GAY DIVORCEE IS A MUSICAL STARRING FRED ASTAIRE AND GINGER RODGERS...
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Comparisons are being made between voting for EU membership and the divorce bill. The two issues are not alike and therefore should not be compared. The EU membership affects the entire population while the divorce issue affects a few thousands. Granted these have rights as well, and should not be deprived of them. The main difference between now and the introduction of divorce is that now one has to go to another country for a divorce while the same thing can be done in Malta after the divorce bill is approved. It's basically a matter of convenience, but the result is the same. Whether it will cost less to get a divorce in Malta remains to be seen; only time will tell. But to go back to the question of comparisons. The weighting of divorce is insignificant; the weighting of EU membership is substantial. Divorce is a minor issue, EU membership is certainly a major one.
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@wenzu THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY KEYBOARD. I AM HALF BLIND, HENCE CAPS!!! IF YOU FIND IT DISAGREEABLE, DON'T READ MY POSTS...
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@OMEGA INT DITTATUR TIEGHEK INNIFSEK
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@-EMANUEL--- Something wrong with your keyboard, mate?
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Luke Camilleri
Another FIRST for the Prime Ministers of the island of Malta - A law being passed with the Prime Minister voting NO, against the majority vote of the MALTESE ELECTORATE!
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Omega, ghidt li tippreferi wiehed li jhaddan principji u mhux min jghid mod u mbaghad jaghmel kif jaqbillu ! Kont qed tghid ghal prim ministru, li ghalik izomm ma dak li jghid. Mela staqsi lil eluf ta' haddiema tat-tarznari, tal-Air malta, tal-GO, tal-karozzi tal-linja l-antiki, tal-mini-busses, il-kaccaturi u n-nassaba etc..etc.. halli jghidulek kemm izomm kellmtu li anki jkun kitibha f'ittra personali lil kull wiehed minnhom !
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Who lives under the impession that now we are living in a democratic country he is living in cocoland. Pity that the political priests cannot yet marry because our PM WILL BE JOINING THEM! Sur Prim Ministru Malta mhux Qassis b kuxjenza ta lasktu ghanda bzonn. Imma minn se johrogna minn din il hela ta flus etc...etc.... The PN party now must concintrate not of losing the forthcoming election "BUT HOW" The only chance I can predict is to change your horse as soon as possible!
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Omega YOU MEAN YOU PREFER A DIRECTORSHIP? (NOT MY WORDS BUT THE PM'S BROTHER'S) DON'T YOU THINK HAVING A THEOCRACY IS BAD ENOUGH? NO ONE IS VICTIMISING YOU, SO QUIT THE BULL. YOU CAN DAY WHAT YOU LIKE. THE QUESTION IS:: ANYONE LISTENING?? BRIFFY??
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I do not understand Dr Gonzi saying that he is observing his conscious and voted according to the oath he too and in the same breath says that his obligation is to see that the bill passes. What is this a joke? If he really has a consious against divorce than his consious should have led him to do everything in his power andsee that the bill does not pass. This is real hypocrisy or either I am stupid or Dr Gonzi does not know his Religion
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Lil min ghogbu jikkumenta dwar il-kumment tieghi nghidlu li kulhadd ghandu dritt juri l-opinjoni tieghu imma x'opinjoni hi dik li trid timponi l-fehmiet taghha fuq haddiehor? Id-dritt li turi l-opinjoni tieghek ma jinkludix li int tistenna li haddiehor bilfors ghandu jahsibha bhalek. Min jahseb hekk huwa l-veru dittatur. Veru li ma tafux x'qed tghidu. Il-Prim Ministru kellu responsabilta' wahda - dik li jassigura li r-rieda tal-maggoranza titwettaq u hekk sar. Inzerta persuna li mhux pinnur bhal hafna opportunisti li jduru ma' kull rih. Nippreferi persuna li thaddan principji u valuri u tosservahom milli persuna li tghid mod u taghmel kif ikun jaqbel.
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'Jekk jien nivvota kontra l-liġi tad-divorzju nkun qiegħed nagħmilha ta' dittatur..' Michael Gonżi (ħu l-prim ministru) fil-parlament. Kull kumment ieħor huwa żejjed.
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Dr.Gonzi ma nafx kif qed tajd li int rajt li deccizjoni tal poplu tigi rispetata, din x IPOKREZIJA grassa hi? kif ma tisthix meta INT U ZEWG TERZI tal MP fuq in naha tal GVERN TIEGHEK ma VUTAWX IVA. l MP tal PN 12 BISS FAVUR x'qed tajd? qed tiprova turi lil poplu li int DIMOKRATIKU?!! NO WAY DR.GONZI b'dan l-agir iktar qed turi kif DITTATURA TAHDEM, ir-ramm tiprova tajdlu deheb?!!,l-iswed tajd li hu abjad ?!!! KEMM GHADKOM TAHSBU LI POPLU GHADU CUC? any way hekk adkom tahsbu li maltin cwiec.HALINA DR.GONZI THE GAME IS OVER IT'S TIME UP WE DON'T NEED GADDAFI or ANY SADAMM IREZENJA IMEDJATAMENT!!!!
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@briffy@maltanet Ghall-informazzjoni tieghek il-PM xejn ma wera li hu konsistenti! Kieku kien konsistenti u veru ma jaqbilx mad-dhul tad-divorzju f'Malta taht il-gvern tieghu, kien JIRREZENJA, kif jien cert kien jghamel Dr. Eddie Fenech Adami kieku kien ghadu huwa Prim Ministru. Min veru huwa ta' principju fil-politika, f'sitwazzjoni bhal din kien jirrezenja, mela se tghaddi ligi MPORTANTI mill-Parlament Malti u l-Prim Ministru ma jaqbilx maghha u vvota kontriha!! Dawn x'buzullotti huma.Nifhem lid-deputati l'ohra, imma li l-Prim Ministru jivvota kontra ligi li se jghaddi l-gvern tieghu ma tghamilx sens u turi li d-demokrazija li tant jiftahar biha SPICCAT. Kienu hafna deputati, miz-zewg nahat tal-kamra li espremew li kienu PERSONALMENT kontra d-divorzju, u fil-fatt ivvutaw KONTRA fir-referendum fil-kapacita taghhom ta' cittadini Maltin. Imma fil-Parlament ivvutaw fil-kapacita taghhom bhala RAPPREZENTANTI TAL-POPLU, u vvutaw FAVUR il-ligi, ghax fil-parlament trid tigi rispettata l-volonta tal-poplu, u l-poplu tkellem car kristall. Ara tiftakarx l'istqarijja ta' Dr. Mario DeMarco, u tkun taf kif jitkellem politiku b'mohhu miftuh u lest li jirrispetta kemm ir-rieda tal-maggoranza u fl'istess hin jirrispetta r-rieda tal-minoranza! Nahseb ahjar tibdew tippreparaw ghall-kap gdid. Dak ta' Brussels issa 'out of question' darba ghall-dejjem. Nahseb li Dr. DeMarco huwa l-bniedem tal-futur li kapaci jerga' jigbed in-naghag l-mitlufa u n-naghag il-godda wkoll. Nahseb fhimtni xi rrid nghid hux!!! U mela tigi tiddefendi l-pozizzjoni li ha Prim Ministru prezenti!!! Dan kien l'akbar zball ta' Dr. Gonzi fil-politika, S'ISSA !! U l'quddiem naraw x'gej.
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AS FAR AS THE €€ DOES. I GIVE IT TILL THE END OF THE YEAR. THEN WE CAN ALL ASK WHAT THE F*** WERE WE TAKEN INTO. OR, I TOLD YOU SO. OR WHAT YOU WILL...
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I MEAN THIS CONSCIENCE STUFF IS BULL AND YOU KNOW IT!!
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briffy@maltanet HE IS NOW OFFICIALLY A DICTATOR AS ARE ALL THOSE LEADERS WHO TOTALLY IGNORE THEIR FIRST DUTY IS TO THEIR PEOPLE. THIS CONCIERGE STUFF IS BULL AND YOU KNOW IT. TODAY DEMOCRACY DIED IN MALTA. LET THE DICTATOR REIGN...FOR NOW!! AS SHAKESPEARE SAID- O COWARD CONSCIENCE, HOW DOST THOU AFFLICT ME!! RICHARD III I FINF IT MOST APT...
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It's something really digusting that in a EUROPEAN COUNTRY, which is also a DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, that an important law, such as DIVORCE legislation, which was preceeded by a referendum with a crystal clear result, that the Prime Minister votes against! These things only happen in Malta, because in other European countries the Prime Minister would have RESIGNED immediately when the outcome of the referendum was known. It's a shame that many politicians hide behind the word 'CONSCIENCE', and use it as an excuse!! Where were these politicians' conscience on other sensitive issues that effect the people directly, such as the huge increase in the water and electricity bills???? Just one word : HYPOCRITS!!!! I'm sure that the people would remember all this arrogance when the next General Elections come!I hope that the European leaders would know what's going on in Malta right now!
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Il-PM wera d-dinjita tieghu meta baqa' kostanti mill-bidu sa l-ahhar. Il-PM ma mexiex bhall-pinnuri, idur ma kull rih kif ghamel JM. Imma JM mhux il-kap tan-nazzjon allura m'ghandux ir-responsabbilta ta' mexxej tan-nazzjon bhalma ghandu il-PM. Dr Gonzi kien kontra d-divorzju u baqa' konsistenti. Wera' karattu u baqa' sod mal-principji tieghu. Jista' wiehed ma jaqbilx mieghu u jghid hekk fil-miftuha ghaliex Malta regghet saret demokratika wara 1987, grazzi ghal Dr Fenech Adami. Ghalhekk illum kulhadd jista' jghid li jrid fil-miftuh minhajr il-biza' li kien hawn fl-1970s u 1980s. Izda wiehed ikollu jammetti li Dr Gonzi ghandu principji u huwa bniedem sod u ghandu dak kollu li jinhtieg biex ikun mexxej ta' nazzjon. Min joqghod jilghab bid-diskors, illum jghid haga u ghada jghid ohra, jew joqghod sieketu ma jikkumentax ghax jibza' li jitlef il-voti huwa bezziegh u bla karattru u mhux dehen li jmexxi pajjiz. Nies bhal dawn jaghmlu biss li jaqbel lilhom u min jorbot fuqhom jaqa' ghaz-zuffjet. Fl-istess Dr Gonzi rrispetta ir-rizultat tar-referendum li ghadda fit-tieni stadju b'maggoranzi kbira; Dr Gonzi qal mill-ewwel wara r-rizultat tar-referendum li ser jara li rr-rizultat jigi rispettat. U fil-fatt zamm kellmtu u hekk ghamel u hekk sar. B'hekk Dr Gonzi were li hu bniedem li jirrispetta d-demokrazija. Wera wkoll li hu ragel a ta' mkn jafdah. Ghamel kollox kif suppost, rrispetta ir-riuzultat tar-referndum u kif wieghed l-ghada tar-referendum hadem biex l-opinjoni tal-maggoranzi tigi rispettata. Dr Gonzi wera li hu statesman mhux politician.
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Krista Sullivan
VOTED NO Frederick Azzopardi, Jason Azzopardi, Tonio Borg, Giovanna Debono, Louis Deguara, Dolores Cristina, Beppe Fenech Adami, Austin Gatt, Lawrence Gonzi, Carm Mifsud Bonnici, Edwin Vassallo, Francis Zammit Dimech. ABSTAIN Frans Agius, Charlo Bonnici, Jean-Pierre Farrugia, Tonio Fenech, Mario Galea, Peter Micallef, Philip Mifsud, Clyde Puli, George Pullicino, Stephen Spiteri, Ninu Zammit. ALL TO REMEMBER THAT THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED NO OR ABSTAINED TODAY AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF THE REFERENDUM RESULT ARE THE SAME THAT VOTED YES FOR INCREASE OF 500EURO PER WEEK IN THERE OWN SALARY
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Krista Sullivan
VOTED NO Frederick Azzopardi, Jason Azzopardi, Tonio Borg, Giovanna Debono, Louis Deguara, Dolores Cristina, Beppe Fenech Adami, Austin Gatt, Lawrence Gonzi, Carm Mifsud Bonnici, Edwin Vassallo, Francis Zammit Dimech. ABSTAIN Frans Agius, Charlo Bonnici, Jean-Pierre Farrugia, Tonio Fenech, Mario Galea, Peter Micallef, Philip Mifsud, Clyde Puli, George Pullicino, Stephen Spiteri, Ninu Zammit. ALL TO REMEMBER THAT THESE SAME PEOPLE WHO VOTED NO OR ABSTAINED TODAY AGAINST THE MAJORITY OF THE REFERENDUM RESULT ARE THE SAME THAT VOTED YES FOR INCREASE OF 500EURO PER WEEK IN THERE OWN SALARY
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Gonzi said that he had a clear difficulty in finding a balance in respecting the people’s will and going against what he believes in.--- What does he belive in?--- fairy tales! To think that this believer in fantasies, which taske priority over fact, is running a country. Surreal, for sure.
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Anke meta vvutajt bil-qalb biex tgholli t-tariffi dik skond il-kuxjenza kienet, ghax vera ghandek kuxjenza tac-chewing gum. Pero ha nghidlek sur Prim, il-kuxjenza tieghek iggebbidha kif trid imma lill poplu iggebdu llum, iggebdu ghada u l-pitghada ssibu kollu quddiem kastilja u ma jiccaqqlaqx minn hemm qabel tirrezenja bhall ma ghamlu shabek tan-North Africa. Imma donnok tixtieq li tkun umiljat. Il-hasra hi li se tumilja partit li ma jixraqlux hekk!!
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Mario Pace
Now the Prime Minister comes to mention the oath he took and his conscience. But when he and his ministers agreed behind our backs to give themselves 500 euro pay rise his conscience and those who voted against was clear at that time.
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Joseph MELI
FAO-DR.GONZI-Didn't realise suicide had been legalised as you have just commi2tted it!
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Dedicated to our Honorable Prime Minister To the tune of Elvis's (The Wonder of You) When no one else can understand me When everything I do is wrong You give me hope and consolation (il-poplu malti) You give me time to carry on I guess i'll never know the reason why You love me as you do That's the wonder the wonder of you (il-poplu malti)
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MIN JINJORA D-DEĊIŻJONI TAL-POPLU HUWA DITTATUR. ARA JFETTILLEKX TIPPROVA TINJORA D-DEĊIŻJONI TAL-POPLU FL-ELEZZJONI LI ĠEJJA META SE JTIK L-AKBAR TKAXKIRA LI POLITIKA QATT ĦA F'MALTA.
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Nixtieq nikkummenta dwar il-matematika ta' Dr Austin Gatt, u wkoll dwar il-konsegwenzi ta' din il-lezzjoni matematika. Dan il-professur qalilna li jekk tiehu kollox ma kollox l-IVA fir-referendum dwar id-divorzju, kienu BISS 38% !! Ejja ghas-sahha tal-argument nghidu li ghandu ragun. Imma ejja bl-istess ragunar inharsu lejn Referendum iehor. Dak tal-Indipendenza. Ma nafx jekk Dr Gatt kienx ghadu bil-harqa imma tajjeb inharsu lejn il-figuri ufficcjali. Voti registrati kienu 156,844. Voti Validi Kienu 129,649. Ivvutaw IVA 65,714. Ivvutaw LE 54,919. Voti nvalidi kien hemm 9,016. Mela jekk nirragunaw bhalma rraguna issa Dr. Gatt, kienu BISS 41.8% li vvutaw favur. Din zgur mhix maggoranza. Allura bl-istess ragunar pervers ta' Austin imissna ma nghatajniex l-Indipendenza. What's good for the goose.... ! Mhux hekk Agostino. Ghamlilna pjacir trid, iddahhaqniex u pprova rrangalna t-tgerfixa tat-trasport pubbliku !!.
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@guidoforte Quote:Lil.. J.P.O. ......Nikwota " M.P.`s must stop putting religion before state ". Jeffery, li kieku dan id diskors ghedtu meta kien ghadu haj iz ziju taz ziju ta dak li ghandek hdejk bhalissa, ( jew ahjar l-Arcisqof Gonzi ) kieku diga qeghed fuq ajruplan sejjer lejn is Siberja, jew fil gumgla ta l -Amazon, sabiex lil Malta ma tarhiex aktar. Unquote: You mean like the times of Dr Gorg Borg Olivier (Dak li suppost tana Nazzjon) when together with the Parish Priest and the band we used to wave goodbye to our brothers and sisters to be exiled to Australia and Arch Gonzi (Dr Lawrence's uncle) looked blissfully the other way while his fold was loaded on the large sea vessels (like cattle) to be emigrated Downunder!
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@Guidoforte Quote:'Sahha u nispera li tkompli' Qallek jahasra li minhabba Gonzi tant waqqu' down li qata' qalbu ghax ma jistax illehaq. Hallieh jistrieh!
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Mazzun..............Qtiltni bid dahq..........Prosit.......Aqrawha ta mazzun hbieb.
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Lil.. J.P.O. ......Nikwota " M.P.`s must stop putting religion before state ". Jeffery, li kieku dan id diskors ghedtu meta kien ghadu haj iz ziju taz ziju ta dak li ghandek hdejk bhalissa, ( jew ahjar l-Arcisqof Gonzi ) kieku diga qeghed fuq ajruplan sejjer lejn is Siberja, jew fil gumgla ta l -Amazon, sabiex lil Malta ma tarhiex aktar.
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Want a laugh? Read this joke. Unfortunately these same prime minister and ministers will keep laughing at OUR expense till the next election. Then we should have the last laugh: http://mazzun.wordpress.com/2011/07/13/kemm-lest-li-taghti-ghal-gonzi-gatt-u-fenech-cajta/
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@ angelovassallo56, Tehodhiex hekk habib. Fid dinja kun assertiv, jigifieri ghati bli taqla. Jekk thossok offendut, offendi bl-istess mod. L-importanti li jien nemmen fih huwa li dak li nikteb, ma niktbux ghax nobghod,imma sabiex nitghallem u nghallem. Kullhadd ghandu id dritt ghal l-opinjoni tieghu. Allahares kullhadd laburist jew kullhadd nazzjonalist. Jekk xi hadd, ghanke jekk ikun anonimu jikteb xi haga libelluza, l-editur jaf min ahna. Ma nafx jekk qatt ktibtx fuq gazzetti ohra. Hemm tinharaq habib, tkun qeghed f`battibek ma xi hadd u l-editur jiddeciedi li ma igiblekx l-aktar ittra importanti li tkun ser tghalaq l-argument. Lili gratli kemm il darba, ghalhekk iddecidejt li nibda nikteb ghawn. Sahha u nispera li tkompli.
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@Angelo Vassallo Ta nazzjonalist li int inhbejt wara l-kuxjenza u sibt skuza biex ma tkomplix taqa ghan-nej*. Mur izboh xi statwa siehbi, ghax gejja l-festa.
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Nixtieq inkun naf, jekk fid dinja fejn tezisti id demokrazija, tghaddix ligi importanti minghajr l-approvazzjoni tal Prim Ministru tal pajjiz ? Nahseb go Malta biss saret kemm ilha tezisti id dinja. Din is sur jgalea nahseb li itini risposta.
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@angelovassallo5 Goodbye, Au revoir, Arrivederci, Sahha!
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@j galea Quote:'Dr. Gonzi li ser tmexxi dan il partit tant kbir u glorjuz, u rebbih taghna ghal rebha ikbar kontra il partit li jrid u jixtiq jaghmel il hsara lill ghaziza Malta taghna. Oh, are you for real or living in Wonderland? No, problem keep dreaming on . - 'il hsara lill ghaziza Malta taghna' - quoted as written by author - was made in the 70's by the like of those who wrote overseas 'Is Malta burning?' You must know this guy - very close to the PN. Where is EFA now? - the one who boycotted Parliament because according to him the will of the majority (in 1981) was not respected?
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Minix ser nikkummenta izjed fuq din il-pagna ghaliex fil-jumejn li ili naghmel dan, nahseb li mhux sewwa li hafna minn dawk li jikkummentaw jitfghu l-gebla u jahbu idejhom, anzi jaghmlu aktar minn hekk, jitfghu l-hama (biex ma jkunx hamallu) ma wicc haddiehor u jahbu isimhom biex hadd ma jkun jista` tiittxhom ghad-danni. ADDIO
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Krista Sullivan
@jgalea int ok jew ? Il-Prim Ministru ghaxaqa ahjar astjena ghax b hekk hada kontra l-maggoranza tal-iva ejja ha jwarrab minn hemm u tibqax tghix fis-shab iftah mohhok jew int ghandek il-meter tad-dawl imbabas u kull fejn tmur bl arriva tal anzjani ghax thallas biss 50cents biex tifranka l petrol halli ma thossux gholi,,,,,,,
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Joseph Sant
The time for argument about divorce is now over. Divorce is part of the Laws of Malta. LIve with it!
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Reuben Sciberras
The last election I beleived in you but in the next one absolutely no way this time. You have lied and double backed on to many issues and promises. Voting against the will of the people is the last straw for me. Cannot wait for you to leave Dr. Gonz!!!!!!!
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Joseph Sant
Human Torch - ridt tghid il-Partit bl-akbar maggoranza ta' siggijiet jiggverna. Nassumi lapsus :D. Is-sitwazzjoni fl-1981 kienet identika ghar-rizultat fl-Istati Uniti fl-ewwel term ta' Geroge W.Bush. Imma fl-Amerika kellek lil Al Gore li ta' regel li hu qaghad ghal dak li tghid il-kosituzzzjoni, imma f'Malta fl-1981 kellna lill Eddie Fenech Adami li ghad jibqa' msemmi ghall-firda li gab f'dan il-pajjiz ckejken taghna. Ghadu sal-lum irid ixerred il-firda. X'wahx ta' bniedem!
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@Silent Citizen Quote:'imma mhux qabel 1013. Sadattant niehdu pacenzja b'xulxin. So he has been dead for 1000 years. That's why he is so thin (I thought he was on a diet) This explains why Brat Pitt shot a film about Zombies!
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Prosit Prim. Bniedem ta integrita' u konsistenza. Bniedem kuragguz. U ghalhekk ser tkun int ghaziz Dr. Gonzi li ser tmexxi dan il partit tant kbir u glorjuz, u rebbih taghna ghal rebha ikbar kontra il partit li jrid u jixtiq jaghmel il hsara lill ghaziza Malta taghna.
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Hadenuf............L-anqas taf x`int tghejd. Il kostituzjoni hija l-ghola ligijiet tal pajjiz. Jek nghamlu kif ghedt int u ma nghatux kasu, nista nigi nidhollok go darek inkissirlek kollox, ghax ligi ma hemmx. Inkun nista nidhol go bank noqtol xi erba u niehu il flus, jekk ninqabbad ma nehel xejn ghax ma hemmx ligijiet. Tghejd x`tghejd int ( fuq kollox min int li tiddecidi x`kien jghodd )Il gvern tal lejber kien legittimu fis sena 1981, GHAX IL LILGIJIET TAL PAJJIZ HEKK KIENU dak iz zmien. Tibqawx fid dlam, u tghallmu l-istorja sew. Ara illum il lejber gab TLETT SIGGIJIET AKTAR fl` ahhar elezzjoni, pero ghax il P.N. gab il mizera ta 1400 vot aktar ha erba siggijiet zejda ( li int u jien qeghdin inhallsu ghalijhom ), u nobdu il kostituzjoni, ghax hekk tghejd.
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Yes, approved but not thanks to the PN. We must remember ALL those who voted No or Abstained so that next time round we kick them out of parliament.
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@issa naraw...mela il poplu ser jdumu biex jifmhuh lil Partit Nazzjonalista habib ghax ghandu 16 il sena fl-oppozizzjoni zgur.2013-2029.... Dak li tizra tiehu fil hajja!!!
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@HADENUF....Skuzani habib izda IVA il kostutizzjoni tan 1981 kienet tghid li l-partit bl-aktar maggoranza ta voti jiggverna. L-mlp dak in nhar ma gvernax kontra demokrazija ghax il kostituzjoni hekk kienet tghid. Demokrazija finta hija kif ghandna issa, meta il poplu ivvota favur id dhul tad divorzju u l-Priministru ivvota kontra l-poplu...Dak il vera Dittatur.
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"....and who doesn't pay maintenance is imprisoned" said JPO. And I ask JPO, when these are imprisoned as he said, from were one can get the money to feed the children and the other parent at home?
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"He criticised the Leader of the Opposition who said that the PM must vote in favour of the bill. “Everybody knows what my opinion about divorce is, and so what credibility would I have if I had to vote in favour?” he asked." Ma nafx jekk giex ikkwotat sew, jew jekk fhimtx kliemu sew, imma dan qisu qed jghid li jekk sentejn ohra jaqla tqaxkira papali imma jemmen b'kuxjenza safja li ghandu jibqa hu li jiggverna, allura hekk jaghmel. Ir-rieda tal-maggoranza ma tiswa xejn. Jiddispjacini naqra l-kumment ta Anglu Farrugia meta qal li Gonzi hu l-ewwel prim ministru li mar kontra x-xewqa tal-poplu. F'liema galassja kien fl-1981? U toqghodux tghiduli kostituzzjoni u mhux kostituzzjoni. Dak iz-zmien kellna hames snin bi gvern li ma jgawdix il-fiducja tal-maggoranza tal-poplu - punto e basta! Fl-ahharnett, lis-sur Joe Borg, Please please please thallatx xi haga daqshekk helwa (u edukattiva) bhal Muppet Show ma xi haga daqshekk tal-biki bhalma hi din li qed niddiskutu :)
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Isabelle Borg
"he would be betraying all those who believed in him." are there still any?
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Quote:'Everybody knows what my opinion about divorce is, and so what credibility would I have if I had to vote in favour?” he asked'. No problem Dr Gonzi vote No but then do the only complimentary and appropriate thing i.e. RESIGN! This is all about democracy.
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Jien ma stennejtx mod iehor mill-ex President tal-Azzjoni Kattolika. Gonzi jibqa' msemmi bhala l-aktar Prim Ministru ipokrita li qatt rat Malta. Issa wara din l-ahhar froga il-poplu Malti jistenna li jirrizenja illum qabel ghada. Kif qatt jista' jkollok Prim Ministru b'kuxjenza tiggebbed li ma nigzitux meta ta' zieda fenomenali lil nnifsu u lill-klikka ta' madwaru, u issa qed tniggzu meta gie biex jivvota fuq xi haga li l-poplu diga' qabel maghha f'referendum.
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Helenio Galea
Kemm iddumu biex tifhmu. PN does not want to be in government 2013 - 2018. Too many problems to deal with coming on.
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This is what happens when you confuse religious morality with political morality. . I may not eat pork because of my religion but I drive on the left side of the road because I have a political duty and obligation to do so. . Religious morality is about me and God; political morality is about me and other citizens.
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"Gonzi said that he had a clear difficulty in finding a balance in respecting the people’s will and going against what he believes in". We call that a conflict of interest. In such cases, people are usually expected to resign since they can't perform their duties properly.
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Lawrence Gonzi is callously ignoring the will of the people, he is continously ridiculing himself, his party and the county in general. Dr Gonzi is showing to everyone that he cannot be trusted because just after the referendum result Gonzi said these words "Once the people decided, I immediately declare that the outcome would be respected" Now he is not respecting the will of the people. Shame because he represents the whole nation and his conscience hasn't got a place in the House of Representatives after the Referendum's result. When Gonzi talks about Conscience can he really be trusted? He voted against the maternity leave extension but in favour of the Eur500 increase weekly for him and his ministers . Malta’s petrol and diesel are amongst the highest taxed in the world, our car licenses increase drastically every year with higher Mepa tarrifs rates in history and also a drastic increase in the prices of Alcohol , Cigarettes and Cement. Dr Gonzi sold Malta's finest jewels for peanuts. Gonzi is just delight in privatising everything - our Airport, SeaMalta, MidMed, Freeport, Lotto, Marinas, Dockyards, Telemalta now Go, etc. Last week he has agreed to sell its Enemalta “petroleum division” and is shedding 515workers from AirMalta after giving them a work guarantee letter. Dr Gonzi’s decision to construct a theatre without a roof on the opera house site and the new parliament was taken against the will of the people. The repercussions are already being felt and will continue to be felt as capital leaves our shores to line the pockets of outsiders. Hope that now the majority of the people knows what the words GonziPN means and also hope that now the honest people will bring a change because Malta cannot afford a dominant-party system, but will be very difficult because renowned Tv programmes on the National TV have been found guilty of imbalance several times by the Broadcasting Authority
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Gonzi's voting whether yes or no is immaterial because the Divorce bill will still see the green light from Parliament. Otherwise, the government will fall but the MPs on the PN's side are so glued to the seat of power that come what may they always come to a compromise and so will surely survive till 2013! However, the fact that Gonzi is going against the will of the majority CANNOT be ignored. Hope that he does not pretend to be some beacon of democracy like his EFA (remember 1981?). The referendum has shown that for him (EFA) democracy only meant gaining power and holding to it. Also, Dr Gonzi will be remembered in the annals of local history as the PM under whom divorce was introduced in Malta. And he cannot do anything about this!
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Il maggoranza assoluta tal poplu ivvotat IVA. Il-Prim Ministru jigi jaqa u jqum minnhom u ser jivvota LE. Demokrazija Nazzjonalista fl-aqwa taghha.
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Adrian Busuttil
All those so-called representatives of the people who vote against divorce should be forced to reimburse the taxpayer for the cost of the referendum from their own pockets. It is painfully obvious that the whole referendum was a charade and it was expected that the "No" camp would win, but now that the people have clearly shown they want divorce our spineless politicians show they can't enforce the will of the people. Vote yes or pay up!
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Jekk hassu daqshekk skomdu dawn l-ahhar jiem u kien qed issibha difficli sinjal li jaf li qed laghmel hazin jekk jivvota kontra....ghax kieku kien cert li ha jimxi fuq il-kuxjenza kien jiddikjara ruhu minn qabel ,anzi kien jghid kif qal darba li ha jivvota kontra bil-qalb !!
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Igor P. Shuvalov
X'inhi r-raguni li wara li ghadda daqshekk hin minn meta l-PM habbar li kien se jivvota le, s'issa l-gazetta elettronika tal-Partit Nazzjonalista ghadha ma semmiet xejn dwar dan?
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A man of no principles. He accepts a 700 vote majority to hold as PM and take 500 euro salary increase. Then........ He does not respect a 14000 vote majority that said yes to Divorce. The PL Mp's should al abstain from the vote so we see if the PM can keep his word that he and his party respect the majority of the maltese.
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Sa fl'ahhar qatghalkom xewqitkom il-PM kif se jivvota. Ghandu dritt jew m'ghandux jivvota LE?? @ J.Brincat - l-affarijiet jindikaw li Gonzi se jwarrab min PM, imma mhux qabel 1013. Sadattant niehdu pacenzja b'xulxin.
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Reuben Sciberras
UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND LEAVE.
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Sorry Mr.Prime Minister, but this is unacceptable,unacceptable, and unacceptable!!! The majority of the maltese population has said yes in the referendum,and you are now saying to them "I don't care"?!! In any decent democracy worthy of its name, such behaviour calls for immediate resignation.You have lost all legitamacy to represent the maltese people anymore.
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Sur Prim Ministru billi inti se tivvota kontra d-divorzju mhux xort inti se tkun dahhaltu u ha nghdlek ghaliex. Inti makakk hafna u hafna pero' din id-darba mort zmerc. Inti kont taf u perswaz li jekk il-votazzjoni kienet ser issir fil-Parlament il-ligi tad-divorzju ma kienetx tghaddi ghaliex minn nahha tieghek kien ser ikollok wiehed li jivvota kontra u minn nahha tal-Labour kien ser ikun hemm ta' l-inqas tlieta li jew jastjienu jew inkella kienu jivvutaw kontra. Pero' ghax inti makakk ridt issejjah referndum u tahli ma nafx kemm il-mitt elf Euroghax inti kont konvint li l-poplu kien bi hgaru se jivvoata 'LE' u b'hekk inti waqt l-elezzjoni li gejja kont tbezza lill-poplu li jekk jitla l-Partit Laburista kien idahhal id-divorzju u b'hekk kien ikollok tista tghid rebha certa ghal partit tieghek. Imma l-poplu qal 'IVA' u l-poplu kien jistenna minnek li inti l-Prim Ministru u l-mexxej ta' dan il-poplu li tivvota iva issa fil-parlament. Pero' jekk inti minghalik li fl-istorja ser ikun hemm imnizzel li l-partit Laburista dahhal id-divorzju sejjer zbaljat ghax il-ligi ser tghaddi tah il-kappa tal-Gvern tieghek, immexxi minnek u jibqa jinghad li dan id-divorzju dahal bis-sahha tieghek ghaliex hadt decizjoni li marritlek zmerc (bhal hafna ohrajn) u li issa bil-vot tieghek inti qieghed tikkundanna lil partit tieghek ghal TELFA ZGURA fl-elezzjoni li gejja. U jiena llum ser inkun l-ewwel wiehed li ser nghidlek grazzi talli bl-azzjoni tieghek qed tizgurana li ser nehilsu minn dan il-gvern li falla lil Malta kollha, holoq l-ghaqs, regghu tfacaw it-tallaba, l-korruzzjoni tarha miexja ma kullimkien. Grazzi minn qalbi Sur Prim Ministru.
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Stefan Mifsud
Dear Great Prime Minister, You just said you will vote against as otherwise the People would not believe a word you would say since you have clearly talked against the entry of divorce before the Referendum. May I remind you dear Prime Minister that a largish chunk of the Population has long lost faith in your honesty long before the Referendum. Namely; Air Malta employees, Dry Dock Employees, The Bus Drivers, The Selmun Palace Hotel employees, the people expecting you to realise your promise to reduce income taxes in your first year, the people still on ever growing waiting lists at Mater Dei which you said will be wiped out. Your crowning honest arguments was no other but the corrupt and dishonest increase in your weekly wage of nothing less than Euro 600, with a Euro 100 discount. As a PN supporter I would please ask you to stop ridiculing yourself, the party and the country in general.
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Igor P. Shuvalov
"The Prime Minister said that he believed that he would be betraying all those who believed in him". Isn't he betraying those who believe in him and are in favour of a divorce law?
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PM pinocchio purcinell ghanqas jaf xiried. ma tistax taqa ac cajt izjed gonzi, trieq wahda fadalek WARRAB.
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Dont worry Gonzi next election when you get obliterted in the polls you will go down as the biggest liar and incompitant PM we have ever had. Cant wait to see you and you pack of liars get humiliated.
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Ladies and gentleman,...THE MUPPET SHOW starring Lawrence Gonzi!
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Adrian Busuttil
Lawrence Gonzi is callously ignoring the will of the people. No changes there, then.
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Dr. Gonzi............Meta hadt il gurament nemmen li hlift sabiex tkun leali lejn il poplu ukoll. Jekk il poplu ghazel din it triq, int trid t`onora, bhala membru parlamentari. Fil kas tal kuxjenza, iva ghandek ragun, u ghalhekk int ivvotajt LE ghad divorzju, fir referendum.