Catholic Church targets Maltese homes with 12-point missive against divorce

Church's anti-divorce roadshow will say divorce ‘allows abusive husbands to remarry’ and warn Catholics they lose right to communion and confession if they divorce.

MaltaToday has seen the text of a 12-point message the Maltese Church will be sending to all homes in Malta and Gozo as part of its campaign to convince voters not to vote for divorce in the 28 May referendum.

The Maltese parliament last week approved an Opposition motion to hold a referendum asking voters if they agree with the introduction of divorce for spouses who have spent four years separated.

The 12-point missive comes in the form of a Q&A, and also tells voters to go out to vote and not abstain. “If you abstain it means you don’t care about your family and other families, as well as your children. If you know and agree that Jesus doesn’t want divorce, and divorce brings much harm to Maltese society and the family, then you must go vote and show that you don’t agree with divorce.”

The first question asks why battered wives should not be allowed to divorce abusive husbands, evoking the famous retort by Andre Camilleri, of the anti-divorce movement Zwieg Bla Divorzju, who said divorce would allow abusers to remarry at will.

“If divorce is introduced, not only will battered wives remarry, but even her abusive husband!” the Church’s version states. “Apart from that, divorce allows anybody who capriciously leaves their spouse to remarry. Divorce doesn’t fix anything.”

The Church will say that cohabitation will increase when divorce is introduced, since less people will want to marry if divorce is available: this already puts the Church at loggerheads with Lawrence Gonzi’s stated position to pass a cohabitation law to grant rights to people living together.

On which statistics to believe, the Church is resting on these three maxims: cohabitation increased in countries that introduced divorce; second and third marriages are bound to fail more than the first; ‘many below the poverty line’ are divorcees, especially women and children. It will also claim that since cohabiting couples will increase, then so will children born out of wedlock.

On whether divorce is a civil right, the Church will tell people that “abandoning your family to remarry is not a right as established in the European Court of Human Rights 1986 ruling in Johnston versus Ireland.” The ruling had found that Johnston could not invoke the Convention’s right to family life to grant him the right to divorce in Ireland, which at that time did not have divorce.

When ‘asked’ why Malta should be the only country apart from the Philippines not to have divorce, the Church will answer: “America has the death penalty – should we introduce that?” and ask voters to learn from other countries’ mistakes.

The Church will also warn Catholics they cannot divorce and remarry in Church, and will also be prohibited from the sacraments of confession and communion.  “Divorce does not dissolve a Catholic marriage.”

On why atheists or non-Catholics should not be granted divorce, the Church has no specific answer except to call on all Catholics to vote against divorce and make people understand the harm of divorce.

On why priests can leave the priesthood and marry, while spouses cannot leave a marriage, the Church coyly concedes this as “a good point”. But it says celibacy is a canonical law while it is God who says that marriage cannot be unbound. “The Church can change its law when it sees the need... but it cannot change God’s law.”

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Il papiet, qassisin, patrijiet etc. tal lum mhumiex l-eredi denji tal appostli li gew mahtura minn Gesu nnifsu. Kieku kellu jigi Gesu tghidx kemm jaghtihom bil frosta u jghajjarhom meta jarahom imdawrin bid deheb u l fided. jara il prepotenza u l-arroganza. Il korruzzjoni il flejjes ghaddejjin mill idejn. It taghlim veru ta' kristu ilu li tghatta bil hmieg tad dinja li deffsitu fih il knisja kattolika.
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A violent person need not remarry to abuse his new partner. If celibacy is not divine law why is it not removed and let priests marry? or married man become priests? Why is a defrocked priest prohibitted from administering the sacraments if he's not going against God's law while still 'remaining'(!) a priest?! Jesus was speaking about marriage in his time which was very different from today's marriage.
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@piccinino PLease quote which bible, chapter and verse did Jesus refer to marriage annulment. On the other hand Matthew Chap 5, verses 31-32 says : "But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adultress......." This means that Jesus allows divorce for marital unfaithfulness, which apart from adultery can also be wife/husband/children bashing, unable to provide because of drunkeness, laziness or betting, leaving the family in squalore. Dear picinino do you have an excuse to this. 3 Sundays ago this extract was the bible reading of the day except that in maltese "marital unfaithfulness" is translated as "...zwieg hazin...." which does not mean any different.
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@ wenzu - that is because so many poeple do not use that sponge between their ears that God gave them. They let others decide for them.
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Keith Goodlip
I can't understand that in this day and age so many people fall for the false philosophy from a bunch of people who have to put on a funny costume to get their outdated messages across.
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Divorce doesnt fix anything. No divorce does not fix anything either.
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so the battered wife get screwed up by her abusive husband and then she get screwed up a second time by the church
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il-knisja ma tridx id divorzju, biex tkompli tirda il-flus lill imsieken li imorru japplikaw ghal l-annulament.haga wahda, li ma l-knisja dejjem izzefnu l-kristu. u ha nghidlek jekk jigi kristu bhalissa, lill dawnk taghhom bil-habel, imma lilkhom bil machinegun.inthom tridu titkelmu tfal imbabsin mill qassisin, qassisin pogguti ma nisa mizzewga, 2 minnhom hbieb sew ta fr gouder ghax sikwiet ikun maghhom, wiehed li kien arcipriet l-isla , staqsu naqra ghalih, u l-iehor li qieghed kappillan rahal il gdid u qabel kien il-gzira, staqsu il-gzira.Mons pawlu Cremona Kont nemmen li il-knisja ser tirranga int, imma mort zmerg hafna, ghalkemm jien nemen li qed imexxi kollox gouder.
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Open letter to Mr. Dr Lawrence Gonzi Prime Minister, of Malta Republic Dear Sir. As countrymen Servant of God Pope John Paul II, we would like to thank you so much for the tenacious defense of moral order and the foundations of our civilization. We want to assure you of the solidarity of our nation and the people of Malta at that particular time when in the legislation of the Republic the Christian nature of marriage as an indissoluble relation of man and woman is being undermined. We believe strongly that such thanks to your attitude this foundation, the cornerstone of a healthy society will be saved in Malta. May the Good Lord has shed light of the Maltese on the entire Europe and has attracted our erring continent back to Himself.
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THE BELOW IS THE MOST RIDICOLOUS THING I HAVE EVER HEARD ALL MY LIFE !!!! THE ENTIRE ARTICLE OF THE 12 POINT FLYER THAT IS GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTED IS ABSURD! IT IS ABOUT TIME THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH START WORKING ON ATTRACTING PEOPLE TO THE CHURCH BY LIVING IN THE REALITY OF THIS WORLD AND STOP TALKING A LOAD OF RUBBISH. I AM A HAPPILY MARRIED CATHOLIC WOMAN HOWEVER CERTAIN IGNORANCE FROM THE CHURCH IS GETTING TO MUCH NOW. WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE FOR THOSE POOR WOMAN GETTING BEAT UP? WHO ARE WE TO DECIDE THAT THE VICTIM OF THE MARRIAGE IS TO NOT HAVE A BRIGHTER FUTURE ? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SEPERATION AND A DIVORCE? DO THE CHURCH REALLY THINK THAT A PIECE OF PAPER WILL EFFECT THE CHILD WHOSE PARENTS ARE ALREADY LIVING SEPERATE LIFES? LETS BE REALISTIC ABOUT THIS. '''The first question asks why battered wives should not be allowed to divorce abusive husbands, evoking the famous retort by Andre Camilleri, of the anti-divorce movement Zwieg Bla Divorzju, who said divorce would allow abusers to remarry at will. “If divorce is introduced, not only will battered wives remarry, but even her abusive husband!” the Church’s version states. “Apart from that, divorce allows anybody who capriciously leaves their spouse to remarry. Divorce doesn’t fix anything.”
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@piccinino Your rebuttal against divorce is very hollow. The main idea that the Roman Catholic Church issues annulment that declare these marriages never existed is revolting. I hope you will never have anyone in your family who's marriage is declared annulled, thereby never existed and you will have to explain to your grand children that they are bastards. The civil law of divorce (a) Does not stop anyone from taking the marriage vows (b) Does not stop anyone from seeking annulment (c) Does not stop anyone from choosing the way to seek councilling The divorce legislation simply is put on the law books for those who seek it as protection for them and their children's maintenance and to ensure that married people are conscience of the consequences if they choose to divorce. It gives a chance to married couples to share the wealth that was obtained during the course of their marriage. Please show me one instant where annulment allowed the spouse and children to share in the wealth accumulated during marriage. People like you can still get married by the church, apply for annulment and follow the rules of the Roman Catholic Church because the divorce legislation will not stop you. If that's the way forward for certain families so be it but nobody especially the church has the right to deny anyone their civil rights from seeking the truth about their broken unions and a fair settlement for their hard work while still married. However what the divorce legislation will stop you from doing is deserting your family by declaring that the marriage never existed and give children of broken marriages the civil right for protection. By what right should the Church be involved in civil matters or the state in religious affairs? For someone who likes to quote the words of Jesus Christ, didn't the Christ also say,' Give homage to God that which belongs to God and acknowledge that which belongs to the Roman Emperor to Caeser. My friend since you are so much into the affairs of the Roman Catholic Church I suggest to you to read a book called, THE BLOODLINES OF THE HOLY GRAIL', then perhaps you will understand how the Roman Catholic Church interpreted the life and words of Christ to create wealth and not to look after the interests of its people. How much proof does one need when this same church denies the holiest of all marriages between Jesus Christ and Mary Magdelene that produced 3 beautiful children Tamar, Jesus & Joseph and to this day the Chuch still insists that Mary Magdelene was a woman of bad reputation. For reference please refer to the Nag Hammadi & Dead Sea scrolls.scrolls discovered in 1945 & 1947.
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Mistoqsi Gesu' x'ghandu jaghmel wiehed biex jidhol il-Genna fil-pront wiegeb "Qassmu gidkom kollu lil foqra". Il-knisja tant imxiet fuq dan li saret potenza kollha rikkezzi. Membri parlamentari tant jobdu lil Gesu' li taw zieda lilhom infushom ta' €600 fil-gimgha. Probabbli biex ikollhom aktar xi jqassmu lil fqar!
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@socjalista88 Rigward id-divorzju il-Knisja ma tistax tiżbalja għax qed timxi fuq kliem Kristu. Li ż-żwieġ jibqa għal dejjem mhux liġi li għamlitha l-Knisja iżda xi ħaġa li qal Kristu. @ fehmawvuci Le serraħ moħħok m'iniex wieħed minn ta' ġewwa. Biex ngħidlek jien naqbel ħafna li l-bażi li fuqha jingħata annullament tkun aktar wiesgħa biex persuni li huma vittma ta' vjolenza domestika ikunu jistgħu jingħataw l-annullament, għax żwieġ fejn persuna hija vittma ta' oħra ma nħoss li dak huwa żwieġ validu. Iġifieri qed nurik li l-Knisja għandha wkoll x'tirranġa f'dan ir-rigward.
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@piccinino: Nifhem x'qed tghid, u huwa veru li l-knisja taghmel hafna gid li mhux dejjem jigi rikonoxxut. Huwa veru wkoll li l-knisja hija maghmula minn bnedmin li jizbaljaw. Din ghidtha int, mhux jien. Issa ahseb ftit, jekk qed naqblu li l-knisja tista tizbalja, dan ifisser li l-knisja jista' jkun li qed tizbalja wkoll fil-kwistjoni tad-divorzju!! qatt ghaddietlek minn mohhok din??
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@piccinino HANQA TA' HMAR QATT MA TISTA TITLA FIS SEMA. U JEKK VERU HEMM INFERN DIGA MIMLI BIN NIES TAL KNISJA RUMANA KATTOLIKA. IBDA MILL PAPIET SPECIALMENT PAPA JOHN XII U SPICCA MILL MIJJIET TA' QASSISIN L'ABBUZAW MIN DAWK IT TFAL KOLLHA JEW BAGHTUHOM SKJAVA GO L'AWSTRALJA. MILLI JIDHER INTI FAVUR L'ANNULAMENT GHAX FORSI XI WIEHED MIN TA' GEWWA. L'AFFARIJIET TAJBA LI SEMMEJT INT LI TAGHMEL IL KNISJA QEDA TITHALLAS SEWWA GHALIHOM GHAX IL POPLU MALTI VERU HANIN. HALLINA HABIB
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@ The Alchemist Kull min ser jipprova jagħmel kampanja kontra jew favur id-divozju se jkun qed jagħmel brainwashing. Mela mhux brainswashing tgħid li d-divorzju ser isolvi l-problemi meta statistika minn pajjiżi differenti li daħlu d-divorzju qabilna turi li iżjed inħolqu problemi milli ssolvew!
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I like to say to those who are going to vote yes on the issue of divorce not to trouble yourself with what the local catholic church says about divorcee not having the right to confession and holy communion.one does not need to go to a priest to confess ,go straight to God. Holy communion can also be shared between people again no need for a priest.There is nowhere in the Bible that says catholic is the true religion.May i also quote what Jesus called these so called priests ,white washed graves and also He said "he that is without sin cast the first stone."Amen
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@Paloma. The venomous serpents in Malta are the ones that wear funny hats and shimmer in gold! I cannot believe you made such a statement ' ' REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE OR A CHURCH ISSUE. IT IS THE LORD GOD HIMSELF WHO SAYS ' NO DIVORCE'... obviously then you don't know that the lord god also gave us free will to do as we see fit! and since God is not here on this earth we have to sort out our problems , and that's why we vote in governments to have laws so that makes it a political issue not a church issue, what are you so scared of do you think you will lose your place in heaven if divorce comes through!and do you honestly believe that only the Maltese catholic church has a secure place in heaven cause they say no to divorce? hypocritical statement indeed when annulment is granted willy nilly for a huge fee by the catholic church in Malta! divorce is A CIVIL RIGHT ! GET REAL.
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Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires.”Sigmund Freud quotes (Austrian neurologist and Founder of psychoanalysis. ********************** “Of all religions, Christianity is without a doubt the one that should inspire tolerance most, although, up to now, the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men” Voltaire quotes (French Philosopher and Writer. One of the greatest of all French authors, 1694-1778). ********************** “All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry” Edgar Allan Poe quotes (American short-story Writer, Editor, Poet and Critic, 1809-1849). ************************** Religions are all alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies” Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
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However, God recognizes that divorce will occur, even among His children. A divorced and/or remarried believer should not feel any less loved by God, even if the divorce and/or remarriage is not covered under the possible exception clause of Matthew 19:9. God often uses even the sinful disobedience of Christians to accomplish great good.
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In this day and age of a globalised world I'm giving up trying to argue the case with such arrogant fundamentalists who want to drive their false moralism down the throat of those who choose otherwise. I've something better to do with that missive once I receive it. Long live Giordano Bruno, burnt at the stake by the church at Campo dei Fiori in Rome, and not yet rehabilitated.
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Keith Goodlip
They can send as many missives as they like. they will directed- without reading- strait into the recycling bag. On "God's law". Can the church send us an original copy of this law, VERIFYING that god himself has written this down, by his own hand on parchment. I can hardly wait THE more likely reality is that the myth was created by some bronze age, desert dwelling, tribesman in the middle east and the illiterates of the time would believe anything that they were spoonfed. In this respect, times haven't changed a great deal.
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Get a message out to all...All those in Favour of Yes for Divorce in Malta should boycott Sunday mass and not give any money during the collections. The Sad argument that the church is putting forward saying that divorce will allow abusive husbands to remarry is extyremely hyprocritcal when the church in malta is actively protecting peadophiles and priests who abuse minors for their own personal sexual gratification.
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Since the Church is highly involved in this civil matter (yes, divorce is a CIVIL right) all of us "bad people that are in favour of devil divorce" should encourage the Church to introduce a church tax as it exists in other Euopean countries. I am sure none of the "believers" will oppose since it would be all in the name of God and I am sure they would not mind paying extra, hux? ;) Like us separated people should not mind paying the single person tax since we cannot remarry....my point here: all you catholic people that see divorce as evil MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS :)
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Pauline Moran
Tlaqna jekk Alla jrid bi Krucjata, hux ja qabda Farizej tal millenju il gdid!!!!!! Inthom id dimonji ta din dinja. Fl-ahhar ittra sigrita ta Bernardette li nfethet xi ghaxar snin ilu kien hemm miktub li L-infern mimli Qassisin!!! Dik il verita li qatt ma jghidulkom!!! Dawn ma jridhux li jidhol ID DRITT TAD DIVORZJU mhux ghax jhobbu lil familji, izda ghax jhobbu lil buthom ghax hafna koppji jibdew jghazlu li jizzewgu bic civil halli jekk iz zwieg ma jirnexxix jkunu jistaw jiehdu id divorzju. Il Knisja ma jaqbillix li dan isir, ghax titlef il poter fuq il manipulazzjoni fuq l-annulamenti taghha (li taghtihom lil min trid hi biss u lil dawk li jghathua kaxxa liri)!!!! TAFDAWHOMX AKTAR LIL KURIA U LIL KNISJA TA MALTA---DAWK GHAL INTERESS TAGHHOM QED JAGHMLU DIN IL HSARA KOLLHA U MHUX FL-INTERESS TAL FAMILJI MALTIN W GHAWDXIN!!!! THALLUHOMX JIMMANIPULAWKOM DIN ID DARBA!!!!!...IVA GHAD DIVORZJU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! TMORRUX TISIMAWHOM LIL DAWN IL QABDA FARIZEJ!!! Dawn mhux favur Kristu izda Kontra li xtaq Alla. Dawn qed juzaw ir religjon biex jimmanipolaw lil ppoplu Malti biss!!! Ghaliex qatt ma jmorru barra min Malta u jghamlu w jghidu dawn il hmerijiet lil barranin Kristjani??? U zgur li LE ...GHAX IT TIR TAGHHOM MHUX LI JGHIDU L-VERITA IZDA LI JIPRUVAW JZOMMU LIL MALTI TA DIN IL GZIRA CKEJKNA GO BOZZA RELIGJUZA BIEX JIBQAW JIMMANIPULAWH. KIF JASLU IL KARTI LI SER JIBGHTU QATTAWHOM U IBAGHTUHOMLHOM LURA!!!!
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Let's start from next SUNDAY - NO MORE CHURCH!
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Jien inhoss li la l-knisja u l-anqas il-partiti politici ma ghandhom jindahlu minn issa l-quddiem. Il-votant ghandu mohh biex jahseb suppost, m`ghandux bzonn Grande Fratello biex jghidlu x`ghandu jaghmel. Il-Knisja ghamlieta cara li l-kattoliku ma jistax jiehu d-divorzju, m`ghandiex ghalfejn taghmel krucjati. Min jiehu d-divorzju jaf li ma jistax jizzewweg bil-Knisja, l-istess bhal min hu separat. Ghalhekk ma nafx ghalfejn din il-krucjata kollha. Jew qed tiddefendi iz-zejza li jisimha 'Annullament', qed tahleb hafna u tibza li tixxotalha?
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Keith Goodlip
The church doctrine is based entirely on bronze age superstions and that is where it's representatives are mentally stuck. It has, and will always oppose any idea that people have rights, which are usually in conflict with this dictatorship.
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@paloma If you are mentioning Borg in-Nadur then you must be joking!
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Reuben Sciberras
@Paloma, so now we are very sure that ONLY the Maltese who will vote against divorce will have a pleace in heaven. ALL the rest of the world id damned. According to our beloved maltese church this is the word og God. Ye right!!!!!!!!!
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Reuben Sciberras
My dearest fathers and excellencies, less people will go to church = less children to abuse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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X'hinuma sbieh hamest irgiel lebsin ta' nisa. Ma nafs hux kollha bil-kart'Anzjan. M'hemm xejn fir-religjon taghhom li ma jistghux jizzewwgu. Imma ta' fuqhom ma jhalluhomx. Probabbli li jekk jizzewwgu jghaddu mil-istess problemi li jghaddu minnhom il-mizzewgin u joholqu problema ghal knisja taghhom. Qatt hargu rendikont ta' kemm il-knisja iddahhal flus mill-annulamenti? Id-divorzju jista' b'xi mod jeffettwalhom dan id-dhul? Li kieku l-knisja tipprepara sew lil gharajjes ghal hajja mizzewga ma jkunx hawn daqshekk fallimenti. Jew qed izzewweg lil kullhadd l-aqwa li c-cifri ta' dawk li jizzewgu bil knisja jidhru sbieh. Pero min ghandu zewg ghajnejn qed jara wkoll li minn kull mija li jizzewgu hamsa w tletin qed jitolbu ghas separazzjoni. Ghaliex ma tismax lil knisja titkellem kontra l-ko-abitazzjoni?
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Have you really looked at those Fez hats with the Muslim swords on them and the stupid regalia and medals these fats, puffy faced, red boozy cheeked Knights wear? Now, come on guys, you call yourself Knights when you can’t even see your shoes when you look down over your beer bellies. If you can’t even bend over, how in the hell could you ever get on a horse and go into battle! It’s downright stupid that we give any of these big fatsos credibility while spending our valuable time thinking and writing about them. I think if everybody just ignored them, left them alone to drown in their own insanity, they would just blow themselves up with all their hot air. But it’s giving their hot air attention and credibility that’s got us into trouble in the first place In other words, I really don’t care anymore what they do. You see, they got us by the balls! They know it. We know it. So when they start, squeezing real tight, instead of taking them too seriously and screaming bloody murder, just laugh a little. Laugh and think about the funny old fart wearing red shoes who is the spiritual guide of the rest of those bigshot goof balls with beer bellies and Fez hats
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@ paloma insejt tghid li alla tak il liberta li jekk trid timmxi warajh u jekk trid ma timxix warajh, jien ha nivotta favur id-divorzzju, izda personali ma nuzahx, izda trid tametti li awn min qed juza il liberta li tah alla u mhux jimxi wara alla. u f'pajjiz demokrartiku fid dinja kull bnidemm andu id-drittijiet civili tigheu li b'hajtu jghamel dak li jrid. u la jien u hadd mux ser jindahallu. jien bhala kattoliku ma nuzax id-divorzzju, izda bhala persuna demokratika ma nindahal lil hadd xjghamel b'hajjtu. u wara kollox alfejn nkomplu nghixu f'gidba?? f'dan il pajjiz hawn eluf li qedin jiseparaw. u jpoggu ma haddihor u jghamlu it tfal ma haddihor. hawn aktar min kemm tahsbu, hawn anka min adu jghix mal mara u qisu xejn mhu xejn u andu itfal jew anda itfal min ta partners ohra. qedin nghixu f-gidba ana is-separazzjoni u manix id-divorzzju alekk ahna dejjem bqajna lura f'dan il pajjiz ax hlief jinteressana xjghamel dak u liehor fhajjitom personali ma nafux. ax dak qed jaqliba il mara, u dak drugat, u tifla ta dik tithol fil 5 ta filodu, u dak alkaholiku. kullhadd jara laffarijiet tijaw, u hadd mandu alfejn jitkazza ax min jitkazza jaqa fil kaza. PAJJIZ MISKIN U MEDJOKRI FKULL SENS TAL KELMA.
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I think a lot of us are taking this whole Vatican Led New World Order thing far too seriously. When was the last time you had a good belly laugh after the Pope came to sprinkle holy water on your home town or country? Have you ever really looked at the fish hat and crazy clothes this old fart wears? Red, shoes! Now, come on, give me a break! And what about those fat guys they call Cardinals giving even birds a bad name? They actually wear funny red dresses and hats and want us to take them seriously! They want us to kneel at their feet, asking God for forgiveness. Give me a break. Then we have to contend with their business and political friends who like kissing the Pope’s ring and probably his a** as well. How can we take any of these guys seriously when they belong to groups with names like the Shriners, Knights of Columbus and Knights of Malta.
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11 Mar 2011 ... Palmo said the greatest scandal in the church happened in 2002 in Boston, until the current scandal in Philadelphia. ... http://deacongerry.blogspot.com/2011/03/cardinal-omalley-criticizes-archdiocese.html Confessions:The Second Greatest Scandal in the Church Priests Stealing from the Sunday Collection http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2005_01_06/2005_06_17_Ryan_TheSecond.htm Pope: Church's Own Sins to Blame in Sex Scandal - ABC News http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=10610770
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Very good to hear that the Archbishop is launching the guidelines for the real Christians! So sad to read all the evil below, when we all should show respect to our priests as Our Lady asks. It was such a show of affection towards the new Archbishop in January 2007, all the Maltese were happy. Now what has happened, why all this hatred? What has changed? Is it the fact that the truth hurts and we shoot out with such venom? Are the serpents among us showing themselves in their true colous? REMEMBER THAT THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL ISSUE OR A CHURCH ISSUE. IT IS THE LORD GOD HIMSELF WHO SAYS ' NO DIVORCE'. Our Lady at Borg-in-Nadur has been begging us for these last five years to say 'No' to divorce in Malta, at whatever the cost.
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@piccinino. Tridx tmur! The church is not imposing!. No, it is simply indoctrinating, brain washing and scaring stiff the faithful [getting lesser by the day] who still attend church on Sundays. It is fighting its war again from the pulpit like it did in the 60's. Did it learn anything from its past mistakes? It is evident that the answer the is cleary no. But it could be that it does not want to lose the grip of power it holds on its faithful. From where else would it otherwise fill its coffers?
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@Gecko Il-Knisja bl-ebda mod ma hi timponi. Il-Knisja Qiegħda turi dak li ġara f'pajjiżi oħra fejn daħħlu d-divorzju qabilna u s-sitwazzjoni marret iżjed għall-għar. Xi ħaġa li qegħdin jagħmluha politiċi u opinjonisti oħra. Imma hawn nofs in-nies f'dan il-blog għandhom kull lanzita għall-knisja daqshiex. Vera li wettqet żbalji li m'issa ma għamlet qatt... imma l-knisja magħmula minn bnedmin li jistgħu jiżbaljaw. Anke l-appostli żbaljaw... pietru ċaħdu lil kristu, ġuda tradih u kważi kollha telqu meta kristu kien qiegħed ibati. Ħadd ma semma l-ġid li tagħmel il-Knisja, b'uħud mis-servizzi li tagħti, u d-djar li għandha li jagħmlu ħafna ġid.
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Religion is an illusion and it derives its strength from the fact that it falls in with our instinctual desires.”Sigmund Freud quotes (Austrian neurologist and Founder of psychoanalysis. ********************** “Of all religions, Christianity is without a doubt the one that should inspire tolerance most, although, up to now, the Christians have been the most intolerant of all men” Voltaire quotes (French Philosopher and Writer. One of the greatest of all French authors, 1694-1778). ********************** “All religion, my friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear, greed, imagination, and poetry” Edgar Allan Poe quotes (American short-story Writer, Editor, Poet and Critic, 1809-1849). ************************** Religions are all alike -- founded upon fables and mythologies” Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
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@ Kevin But couldn't the church make better use of its loads of money. Is it so detached from its fold that it does not know (or wouldn't be bothered) how many people are suffering out there?
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HEHEHE THE PHARISEES WHITED SEPULCHRES CORRUPT FASCIST CURIA FREAKS STRIKE AGAIN. GUYS 1960'S ARE BACK WITH A VENGEANCE. BEWARE OF THE DEVIL WITH HORNS AND FORK AS WE WILL ALL BE DOOMED TO HELL:)))))))))) YOU KNOW WHY ALL THIS BLACKMAIL BY THE CHURCH - DO YOU KNOW THE STORY OF GUZEPPI MIBJUH MINN HUTU - HEHE THEY ARE AFRAID THEY WILL BECOME 'GUZEPPI MEHJUT MINN BUTU' AS CHURCH ANNULMENTS THUS THOUSANDS OF EUROS WILL IMMEDIATELY DISAPPEAR FROM THESE MORONS' HANDS. SO JUST ONE QUESTION - SINCE ACCORDING TO THEM FREAKS AND WEIRDOS AT THE FASCIST CURIA WHOEVER DIVORCES IS NOT ALLOWED TO RECEIVED SACRAMENTS MY GOOD GUESS WOULD BE THAT, THAT COUNTS FOR US PEOPLE IN FAVOUR OF DIVORCE EH??????????????? HEHEHE TGHIDX KEMM QED INQATTA XAGHRI U NIBKI:)))))))))))))))))))))))))) SINJURI ISQFIJIET (HEJ U VERU SINJURI TA!!) TAHLUX KARTI AX THASSRU L-AMBJENT!!)
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Dear jezabel, money is no problem for these guys. They just make a collection and hey presto thousands are in the bag!. It's easy money for them. They don't toil to get money as most people do. I'll keep all the flyers they'll be sending so that I'll be showing them to my nephews and nieces when they grow up to let them see the hypocrisy of Malta's clerics.
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Seeing how much the pious Holy Catholic Church of the whole Maltese Islands [comprising Malta, Gozo, Comino, Cominette and Filfa], in the middle of the Mediterranean and now a fully fledged country within the EU, is trying to indoctrinate her faithful, is proving how right was Karl Mark's philosophical thinking that 'religion is the opium of the people'
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Dawn l-ipokriti dejjem isemmu l-famuzi 7 kelmiet li qal Kristu :"Dak li ghaqqad Alla ma jifirdu hadd".Ima Kristu mhux dawk il-kelmiet biss qal. Imma dawn jikkwotaw biss fejn jaqblilhom. Halli nfakkarhom fi tnejn ohra jien, li jekk iharsu madwarhom ikollhom xi jxommu mhux hazin: "Iktar facli li gemel jghaddi minn ghajn ta' labra milli sinjur jidhol il-genna". Harsu lejhom, kollhom dehbijiet, ruzetti, bakli tad-deheb, tronijiet indurati , mitri kollhom hajt tad-deheb, eccetra. U l-ohra:"Jekk xi hadd jaghti skandlu lil wiehed minn dawn l-innocenti, ikun ahjar ghalih li jorbot mazzra m'ghomqu u jinxtehet il-bahar". X'jidhrilkom minn din eccellenzi reverendissimi ?. U mela d-divorzju jwerwirkom, ja qabda ipokriti. Il-politika taghkom kienet, ghada u tibqa',"Aghmlu dak li nghidulkom ahna u taghmlux dak li naghmlu ahna". Imma llum il-maggoranza tal-poplu mohhu miftuh a mhux ser ihalli qabda bazokki mmuffati jimpressjonawh bil-hmerijiet u l-antikalji tal-babaw ta'zmien il-medju evu. La tispicca l-generazzjoni anzjana, tispiccalkom il-hakma li forsi ghad ghandkom fuqsezzjoni tal-poplu. Ahjar taraw kif tilqghu ghall-influss musulman li ma jdumx ma jrieghed l-Ewropa kollha, fosthom Malta , ghax dak li m'ghamlux fl-assedju bil-gwerer, qed jaghmlu bil-kwiet !!.
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L-isqof kapaci jikteb hawn? Iva jista, mela ghax ma tkunx bhalna u tikteb hawn, halli nikkorespondu - jew inti xi divinita ma tiktibx personalment hawn? jekk jogghbok tistsa tikteb hawn halli nitkelmu ftit ? saviour falzon jew silvio :) xorta wahda
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le kevin, inkella nhallas bolla 7 cents lolllll mhux worthed- jiena ghal goz-zibel ser nitfahha wara li inqatahha. skuzani ghax irispondejt fuq tieghek- izda peress li semmejt li min hu favur divorzju ... No thanks.
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Why then not save their unholy money and not send them at all!!
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Min hu favur id-divorzju jista' facilment jibghat il-materjal li jircievi lura lil knisja.
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Why am i not surprised by all the scaremongering!! here we go again the Maltese Catholic church is at it again !!the same tactics were used before many many years ago so why not use them again when these hypocrites know that a lot of the Maltese people will cower to their bullying and that's what the Maltese Catholic church is a BIG BULLY!!! do as i say or you will burn in hell for eternity. These hypocritical low life's have no regard for family whatsoever so long they can still preach their evil sermons and lies and deceit. they seem to have a direct line to god telling people what he wants and he what he says, liars liars the lot of you!! if there is a hell which i for one don't believe in then you lot will burn for ever and ever for the hurt and damage you have caused to innocent children and get away with it! may you all rot i hell for it!! so many posts here i agree with and i agree with most cause is see the people want this vote to be a yes ! but the church has the $$ sign in mind that's whats this is all about do not think all the people are imbeciles they have a brain to think with and a pity for the ones who are under the manipulation of the Maltese Catholic Church,i lived through the sixty's i remember it well and never will forget that time .and neither will i forget this time. Get a life and stop sponging from the poor and the fidile and stop your lies and deceit you manipulative liars!!
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Reuben Sciberras
I have not seen one single shread of Christian love from the Church since a very long time. A living example is when Fr. Gouder very often appears on TV. I have never heard him once mention love towards one another, charity or even Christ. All he does is mention the church laws are this and that, if one does not wish to abaide by them one can leave the church. Well Fr. Gouder there was once a man name Jesus and he told his followers to do exactly the opposite of what you say. He urged them to spread their nets as far as possible to spread the word of GOD which is only one word Love. Not to remind you about the lost sheep etc.etc. The maltese church is and has been for a very long time, just another political party and NOTHING else!
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Reuben Sciberras
Ah,so now out pious maltese bishops clothed in their golden vestments are going to introduce the interdeath again. The divorced will be banished from receiving certain sacraments. Tell me what percentage nowerdays still go to confession? Who in his right mind still trusts a priest with his secrets? I have been doing charity work all my life and feel very close to God. I certainly have not felt close to the maltese church for a long time. The priests are the group which have given me the worse examples on how a true christian should live. So all of us should seek the church annulments, with the years of waiting,lies galore from both sides, wasted money and the the cruelest of all: your past life never existed and your children are bastards. The greatest example between the real LOVE Christ the Lord shows us and the teaching of our beloved one apostolic church!
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il knisja ahjar titlob mahfra al dak li serqet. tafu fil passat kemm kienu ibezzaw nies li jekk ma jiktbux il wirt lil knisja, imorru linfern. min jisraq imur l-habs. u jrodd lura dak li seraq. izda il knisja ma raditx lura dak li serqet mandt il familji maltin, il knisja messa tisthi li biex igorr vara trid thallas il flus, tamel business min fuq id devotti, jien nixtiq nerfa vara xi darba. izda mandix flus. inhossa bhala ngustizzja din. il knisja flus biss tara. u il knisja jaqbilla li divorzzju ma jitholx halli dahal il flus mil anullamenti.
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"will also be prohibited from the sacraments of confession and communion" What a load of baloney! Is the same treatment handed out to child abusers within her fold? Or else do they protract matters indefinitely in the hope that truth will not surface? I simply cannot bear their hypocrisy!
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Joseph Sant
@ picinino. Yes indeed the Church, like anybody else, has the right to speak - as long as what it says is the objective truth without twisting facts and deviating from the point. The Church has every right to tell it's followers that they cannot remarry within the church if they are divorced. However it has no right to tell it's faithful to vote to deny other individuals the civil right of divorce. For Catholics it may be a sin to make use of divorce but it definitely is not a sin to vote for the civil right to divorce to be introduced as part of the secular law of the land. That is where the maliciousness lies. God in his omniscience gave man free will - the church wants to deny that right. Who do you think is correct?
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I told you that they are in the back stage, and soon after they will come out like serpents, Well to me your communion etc.. you can ..........> Anyways ,"who do you think you are to say that to the christian people? Do you see yourselves as GOD himself? your bible has been written at least 2000 years ago by people. there are some good sentences theer in your bible for you. in maltese lang. tarax it t-tibna f'ghajnen huk izda araw it-travu l'ghandkom intom . yes why worries who will lose the communion etc..? If all that agrees to vore for a divorce , after a statement like that from the Church, just don't go to the church. who will loose mostly? the church. who comes and beg for money? the church? the priests just stay in the church and in thier homes ,living from your money. Every sunday they beg for money , just don't go -its them who will loose.
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Krista Sullivan
Eccelenza Arcisqof jekk joghgbok lili tibatli ebda ittra id-dar id-decizjoni hadta u la int u anqas hadd ma'huwa ha jibdilli l-fehma tiji int ghix hajtek u jien nghix tiji ghax jien lilek ma' nindahalekx....grazzi
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We'll soon be having special prayers,night vigils, processions, special rosaries, visits by cardinals and the usual troops of priests, nuns, monks, catholic action, Museum, and the whole brigade forming one front under the umbrella. We might even have an apparition by the Blessed Virgin Mary to top it all. Nothing excluded in this farce.
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Annulment means to make void or null; abolish; cancel; invalidate; to reduce to nothing; obliterate; to cancel. ALL these are action verbs..and to bring something to nothing means it must have been there in the first place. So why does the church keep saying that annulment means that the marriage never existed in the first place? How can something be brought to nothing if it never existed??? Perhaps these guys in the photo may wish to explain to us.
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Luke Camilleri
Why not abusive wives? It's only fair that Catholics y lose right to communion and confession if they divorce, but it's fair for non-Catholics to have this right. That's why Maltese Catholics opt foq Annulment since with Annulments and having divorced spouses, they can put their "conscience" at rest and not lose right to communion and confession
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i can assure you in my town, sunday mass, the omely, changed into attacking those who are in favour of divorce. i wish i could have standed up and debate the priest. im not a coward. and i would do it next time.
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These tactics have been used in the 60s and we all know the results. We are in the 21st century and inquisition tactics are still used.
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vera tal misthijja, mil knisja, dan li jridd alla? theddid?? li, il knisja timponni fuq haddihor it-twemmin taha? il knisja manda l-ebda dritt tindahal fil kwistjonijiet ta li-statt, ghax wara kollox min se jiddivorzja, mhux ser jizewegg bil knisja jerga, ax huwa divorzju ta listat mux divorzzju tal knisja. li tghati lopinjoni taha anda dritt iva. izda li tuza arma thedded lil cattolici fi kwistjoni ta listat, juri vera x pajjiz miskin qedin nghixu fih. jider li iz-zminijet passati rigajn gejjin lura u se morru al linterdet. mark my words. fl-elezzjoni se jkun hemm alleanza bejn il knisja u il gvern. u il knisja tghid li min ikampanja favur id-divorzzju bhal kif ser jghamel Joseph muscat, u JPO, u ohrajn, ghandom jigu imwarrba mil parlament, u ser jghidu li nies li min ressaq dan il bill fil parlament u dan il vot bix jittihed refferendum, jigi ib-boykottjat! vera tal misthija ergajna gejna interdettati!!!
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To those interested , here is a book which can be downloaded freely. "THE VATICAN HOLOCAUST" by Avro Manhattan. Chapter 22 is very interesting: it deals with Malta's situation during the dark sixties.I lived those times . Enjoy. Just write The Vatican Holocaust , search and it is there for the taking. Read about the hypocrisy of these "saints".
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Just a quick reply To the catholic church:(I like that you from the church reply here in the maltatoday ,replying to this for now) Did your Jesus in your Bible saying to many of your priests to sexaully abuse children all over the world and steal their innocence? did your Jesus told the Church to burn and torture all non believers? Now in Malta. did your jesus told archbishop mikiel Gonzi to give the interdett to peopele who would vote for MLP? If someone from the high positions only from the catholic church wants to talk directly to the people writes here, so everyone can reply directly, one to the other. You letter sended to our house will Just shred it into pieces , and goes to the dustbin. Who are you to send the leaflets into peopel's house? Do I know you? do you have my permision to send me leaflets full of lies? and what about the disgusting concordat that the Vatican have done with eddie fenech adami, where almost it is impossible ,that a priest can ever goes to court of laws? is that why 3 of eddie fenech adami children , were given marriage anullments? write here so people can ask you and we reply to each other. in a democratic country yes, the church have the right to speak like everyone else, in the church radio and newspapers. BUT NEVER CAN GET IN PARLAMENT . THAT IS NOT DEMOCRACY.
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Phillip Martin Micallef
gheziez qarreja...............tafu li wiehed mit tifel ta FENECH ADAMI ha l- ANNULAMENT darbtejt u wiehed minnhom KISSER FAMILJA???????
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dear Archbishop, thank you for having your say, as you have a right to. Now leave us alone and go get a life...
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The church is an expert in scaremongering. Another reasons to leave this institution.
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Phillip Martin Micallef
ja qabda oqbra mbajda....................morru sibu xi griek!!........................jmiskom tisthu. lanqas l-libsa li tilbsu ma jisthoilkom li gorru!..........hekk kien jipridka Kristu??? biex tiprovaw timponu ?? hekk tahsbu li jahseb Kristu??.............li mara jew ragel jibqaw ndannati ghal ghomorom shah?????
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Il-knisja ga bdiet tahdew, kien hemm genituri li meta marru ghal uliedhom il-muzew riedu jkellmuhom biex spiccaw ikelmuhom kontra d-divorzju. Ghalfejn din il-biza? Min diga sseparat ma jistax jizzewweg bil-knisja u l-anqas jekk jiddivorzja. Allura ghalfejn. Jaqaw qed jibzghu li se tinqatalhom iz-zejza, dawk li jdahhlu min taht biex johorgu l-annullamenti. Din zejza kbira ohra bhal ta` l-iskejjel tal-knisja. Ghax ma jarawx kif hargu zewg annallumenti ghal istess persuna, ja qatta oqbra mbajda.
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Sewwa qed tghidu taf!! Il-Knisja m'ghandiex tindahal f'dawn l-affarijiet. Jekk hemm bzonn ikabbru s-sagristiji u jinghalqu hemmhekk. DEMOKRAZIJA LA MALTIJA????????????
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No one should be surprised by the actions of such flimsy actors. The mighty Euro is the main reason why these Bishops are so much against divorce. They have to protect their salaries roughly 6% each from every diocese. Anyone who read the book'The Bloodline of the Holy Grail ' will understand that the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH could not care less for any family because they even destroyed the truth about the family of Jesus with half truths and outright lies. The scrolls of Nag Hammadi and the Dead Sea Scrolls are witness of these facts. This is the same Roman Catholic Faith that discriminate against WOMEN, has abused CHILDREN for decades and ignored their pleas for the truth and most horrificly branded Mary Magdalene the wife of Jesus Christ and his most beloved possession and the Holy Mother of his 3 children as a woman of bad character. How sad that Malta remains under the thumb of such fabricated religion and in the year 2011, the good and generous Maltese people remain at the mercy of such manipulation. While the Maltese families struggle with thier everyday lives in uncompatible marriages, abusive relations, convenient co-habitation and fatherless and unprotected children, these Bishops live the privileged life, high on the hog and fulfilling their duties to keep their faithful immersed in ignorance with regards the true teachings of Jesus Christ. The Maltese people has only one question to ask themselves when it comes to voting in the referendum on divorce. You can choose to listen to these Roman Catholic crusades manipulated by these bishops in the name of a religious faith that continues to expose its hypocrisy or you can clear your conscience by voting for what is right and allow the wrongs of a mismatched union to be corrected for the sake of your family, your neighbours or your friends who might need this civil right.
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Tal-mistħija dal-kummenti u l-artiklu. Ħalluha l-Knisja għandha dritt titkellem u ssemma l-opinjoni tagħha. Jaqaw qiegħda toqroskom fil-laħam il-ħaj... sewwa jgħidu l-verita' tweġġa. Il-Knisja ma tagħmilx għall-but imma għall-ġid tas-soċjeta'. L-Awtur ta' dan l-artiklu jaf li teżisti statistika li turi li dak li hu qed jgħid li l-knisja ma għandhiex statistika fuqhiex tibbaża dak li qed tgħid. Statistika: http://www.divorcestatistics.org - statistika li ħarġet minn psikoloġisti. Artikli interessanti: http://www.il-gensillum.com/news.asp?newscat=15&news=6935
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Fis-sittinijiet ma kinux jaghtuni l-assoluzzjoni avolja ma kellix vot !! Imma ghax kont naqra l-Helsien anke kienu jaqbzuni fit-tqarbin. Issa dak miz-zmien kont fiz-Zghazagh Haddiem Nsara !!.U bqajt immarkat ghal ghomri. Kif nista' nafdahom dawn is-sriep velenuzi ?. Jekk veru temmnu f'Alla tafu li ghad ihallaskom U jekk ser tergghu tifthu glieda ohra ser tkunu risponsabbli ghal daqq'ohra qabel il-mewt tal-knisja. Ifirhu ! .Minn dak iz-zmien m'ersaqtx izjed lejn il-Knisja. Huma keccewni. Dak iz-zmien ma ridunix. Wara stqarru li kienu zbaljaw !!.Imma l-ferita hemm ghadha u hemm tibqa'. Jien m'ghandix bzonn sensara biex nitkellem m'ALLA. Alla jismaghni l-hin kollu u dak li nitolbu dejjem seghani !!.Jien f'kuntatt m'Alla 'l hin kollu. Intom qeghdin hemm biex tinqdew b'Alla. Ja qabda ipokriti. "Dak li ghaqqad Alla ma jhollu HADD". Allura kif tigu intom u tiddikjaraw li zwieg qatt ma sehh u taghtu l-annullament ?. Mela qed tahsbu li lhaqtu flok ALLA issa wkoll?. Ghax kif taslu ghad-decizzjoni li tafu x'kien isehh qabel iz-zwieg ta' dawk li tannullaw?. ALLA wiehed hemm. Hanin, irid lil kulhadd ghandu anke lill-ikbar midinbin. Lilkom biss jistmerr ghax tinqdew biH ghal skopijiet ta' mohhkom...Biex izzommu l-poter li dejjem kelkom billi twerwru lill-veri fidili bil-babaw tal-infern. Il-Genna u L-infern f'did-dinja qeghdin. Hafna minnkom u min hu sinjur, fost ohrajn, qed jghixu fil-genna, imma l-maggoranza tal-poplu jghixu fl-infern. Staqsu lill-fqir, staqsu lill-morda. Staqsu lil min ghandu zwieg imfarrak. Dawn jghixu fl-infern. U intom, ta' ipokriti li intom hekk triduhom. IPOKRITI ghal miljun darba.
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FAXXISTI, PERVERTI, KRIMINALI - MORTU LURA AL BIZA - DITTATURI INDANNATI BIKOM INFUSKOM. ARA VERU TLIFTU R-ROTTA, ISSA JKOLKOM KNEJJES MIMLIJIN!!! ARA VERU ESTREMISTI - AX MA TMORRUX MAT-TALIBANI ESTREMISTI - AX TAQBDU ID F'ID. IVA GHAD-DIVORZJU, GHAL-LIBERTA'!! AX MA TGHIDUX KEMM IQUM L-ANNULLAMENT TAL-KNISJA U AKTAR IMPORTANTI ID-DOMANDI PURAMENT PERVERTI LI JIGU MISTOQSIJA WAQT IL-PROCESS TAL-ANNULLAMENT - DOMANDI DWAR AFFARIJIET TANT PERSONALI LI ANQAS TITKELLEM FUQHOM MA L-AKBAR HABIBA TIEGHEK - JIEHDU PJACIR JISIMGHU BIL-MOHH PERVERT LI GHANDOM. GHIDULHOM KIF WAQT L-ANNULLAMENT MA JKOLLOKX AVUKAT MIEGHEK, U KIF WARA LI TKUN GHIDT KOLLOX LIL MONSINJUR PERVERTIT, IGIBLEK MARA BIEX TAQRALEK DAK LI TKUN GHIDT. GHIDULHOM SINJURI FAXXISTI TAL-KURJA KRIMINALI, KIF IL-PERSUNA LI TKUN GHADDEJJA MILL-PROCESS TAL-ANNULAMENT ANQAS TIGI INFURMATA MIN SER JIXHED U META. GHIDULHOM KIF FL-AHHAR TAL-PROCESS XI HADD DEMENTI MILL-KURJA FAXXISTA KRIMINALI JCEMPLULEK BIEX JGHIDULEK LI L-KAZ SE JINGHALAQ U JEKK TIXTIEQ TISTA TMUR TAQRA DAK LI QALU X-XHIEDA META INT MA KONTX PREZENTI!!! DAN HU L-ANNULLAMENT TAL-KNISJA - ANNULLAMENT KORROTT, PERVERT, U OVVJAMENT B'BALLA FLUS DRITT FIL-BWIET TAL-MONSINJURI FAXXISTI PERVERTI. ISSA SE JIBDEW KAMPANJA BIL-BIZA' MILL-BABAW - IMMA HA NGHIDILKOM - MINN IKUN IDDISPRAT MA JISTENNIX ID-DIVORZJU BIEX JITLAQ, U INTOM AX ISSIBU IKEL LEST U SODDA SHUNA MA JINTERESSAKOMX MIT-TBATIJA TA HADDIEHOR. ISTHU JEKK TAFU!!! ARA VERU NIES LI MA TINBIDLU QATT - MHUX SE TIDFNU N-NIES LI JKUNU DDIVORZJAW FIL-MIZBLA WKOLL GHAL LI JISTA JKUN HUX??? MORRU INDIFNU TAHT SITT PIEDI TERRAPIEN JA QABDA FARIZEJ!!!
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Maureen Attard
The Church has the right to teach her beliefs to its members. It has the right to talk on the subject like others do have the same right. We are in a democratic country amd members of the European Union. Is the church hurting any of you by teaching her members what to do? As we say in Maltese, 'Il-verita twegga'.
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the church is a business, they don't want divorce cos they will lose a lot of money in the process! i have lost my faith because of the "maltese church" and i will make sure my son will never step foot in a church. he wasn't baptised and won't be doin any other sacraments (until he's old enough n decides he wants to do them). the church needs to stop scaring people! one day they say something, the next its completely different. its full of lies and deceit!! you will still have the right to receive communion!! you think someone's gna ask for marriage papers etc and then say "oops sry your husband beat you, so you left.. no communion for you!" -- dont believe such nonsense!!! (i am by no means offending Christianity - but the maltese church - two completely different things!)
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The church should realize now that 60,000 suldati ta l-azzar are more then doubled. Stay out of politics , and our lives we had enough of your hypocritical values.
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Pauline Moran
Tlaqna jekk Alla jrid bi Krucjata, hux ja qabda Farizej tal millenju il gdid!!!!!! Inthom id dimonji ta din dinja. Fl-ahhar ittra sigrita ta Bernardette li nfethet xi ghaxar snin ilu kien hemm miktub li L-infern mimli Qassisin!!! Dik il verita li qatt ma jghidulkom!!! Dawn ma jridhux li jidhol ID DRITT TAD DIVORZJU mhux ghax jhobbu lil familji, izda ghax jhobbu lil buthom ghax hafna koppji jibdew jghazlu li jizzewgu bic civil halli jekk iz zwieg ma jirnexxix jkunu jistaw jiehdu id divorzju. Il Knisja ma jaqbillix li dan isir, ghax titlef il poter fuq il manipulazzjoni fuq l-annulamenti taghha (li taghtihom lil min trid hi biss u lil dawk li jghathua kaxxa liri)!!!! TAFDAWHOMX AKTAR LIL KURIA U LIL KNISJA TA MALTA---DAWK GHAL INTERESS TAGHHOM QED JAGHMLU DIN IL HSARA KOLLHA U MHUX FL-INTERESS TAL FAMILJI MALTIN W GHAWDXIN!!!! THALLUHOMX JIMMANIPULAWKOM DIN ID DARBA!!!!!...IVA GHAD DIVORZJU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mauro Miceli
This message is already being spouted during the Sunday sermons at L-Ibrag.
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Archbish: "We will not have a crusade this time" Church: "CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE!!!"
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In the coming weeks, during the run-up to the Referendum on the 28 May, we're going to expect an intensification of sermons, admonitions and threats by the Catholic Church during Sunday mass(meetings) in the various localities around Malta and Gozo in the coming weeks. I urge those who do not normally attend these weekly meetings to make it a point and attend. If the celebrating priest starts on a more than likely diatribe against divorce, I suggest a silent protest by standing up and slowly walking away from the church service. In this way, the pro-divorce lobby will be seen as actively making a move in protest against the Maltese Church's evident hold on Maltese civil life.
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Jien Agnostiku fil-hajja ta kuljum u Kattolku by upbringing. L-aktar haga li izzomni il-boghod mill Knisja, mhumiex l-aktar il-fidi, imma l-attagjamnet skanadaluz u l-imgieba tal-klikka fil-poter tal-Kurja/ Knisja. Ghandi relazzjoni eccellenti ma qassisin individwali, u vera li dawn genwini; imma l-politika ghall-kilba ta poter u maniggi( fuq din l-art) bhal dawk li saru fis-60's, ihallu toghma morra wisq. Jekk ik-Knisja ma tismaghnix ta imbecilli-meta h istess mimlija minn hafna Monsinjuri vera medjokri i-tkun qed taghmel aktar gid lilha u lilna mill-hafna Krucjati immuffati li twieldu mill-Papa Piju Tnax: dak li gie akkuzat li warab wiccu ghal olokawst tal-lhud, komunisti, zingari, handikappati u omossesswali. Ma titghallem qatt?
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SHAME ON YOU Maltese Church.. May God forgive you for all the sins you are committing once again!! Jesus always accepted everyone, even the worst and most evil of all criminals; but you are refusing those who are in favour of divorce!! Who are you to decide who can and cannot be confessed, and who are you to decide who has the right to communion? May God forgive you for becoming Pharisees!!
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Well, well, now it's JPO against the Holy Roman Catholic Church which is definitely on the warpath. A` propos, we haven't yet heard where the Bidnija Witch will be pitching her tent. It would be very interesting to know that even if the Witch is now apparently concentrating on which part of the Colonel's compound the Allies ought to be pounding. (You should see her in her battle fatigues - well at least she can cover her outrageous posterior and spare us the unsightly sight).
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The Church in Malta does not want to learn from its past mistakes of the 60's when many left her fold. The tactic is to scare stiff the faithful. It is stopping short of saying that if you vote in favour of divorce you would be committing a mortal sin. It is not saying so simple because unlike the 60's it is now not permitted by our constitution. Wouldn't it better for the Church if it really wants to follow in the footsteps of Jesus to concentrate all its energy so as to eradicate poverty from Malta.